BIG NAME DJ'S WHO CANT MIX..?

[Dj Richie Parker]

Ive been listening to alot of sets by some of the " worlds best djs "..??? lately such as carl cox, judge jules, fergie etc..and there are loads others..

Its like my understanding of what makes a good dj is by being able to mix tracks and make them sound like they go together good, also choosing tracks that compliment eachother in some way, this complimenting of tracks can be obivious or more deeper in the sense initially you dont think it goes well but then after hearing it a few times or hearing the songs the follow you say to yourself " ah yea that did fit in there nicely " like my idea of doing a set was that your tryna tell a story by putting them all together etc, ok some sets that doesnt work, you might have an hour to play and you need to play **** to get the crowd on the dancefloor or your gona look pretty ****ty..

But in fairness like what the feck is goin on with all these world class dj's..and they get away with it really because they have big names..because they released a hit track in 19 nintey feckin two or something or because they have a good voice for radio etc..

I duno it gives me hope really to think that these are the best djs in the world an you know you could mix two tape decks togther better in alot of situations...

And i know im gona get slammed for this so i will give the positive sides first:
Dave Clarke i love his productions some of my all time favorite techno funk tracks are southside, compass and shake your booty.. Some of his skills on the dex are stuff i try to similate in my own sets, some scratchin etc..But the way 50% of the tracks are thrown in is just i duno lazy..? like i know some people are gona say well techno is like that, it doesnt take on the same characteristics as trance mixing etc but like where do ya draw the line..??

i feel better now..

[jasonmcareedj]

i heard first hand from a dj that was on stage with pete tong that he was seen loading a cd he had done previously and pretended to mix.... by all acounts thats the only dj they ever saw doing it but he did it quite a few times i hear

[H3lx]

Its like my understanding of what makes a good dj is by being able to mix tracks and make them sound like they go together good

no

what makes a good dj is the ability to rock the fuck out of the crowd and give them a great night

mixing is 25% of being a good dj

the rest is programming and track selection

[Funker]

LOL who did that?

[H3lx]

LOL who did that?

pete tong

allegedly


to be fair

i dont really believe anyone would do that

think of how much harder it would be to mime a set REMOTELY realistically, than to actually just do the set

[k.farrell]

heard ****** play not 2long ago was not very impressed to tell ya the truth set took 2long to get going and could not get over it 2hear 1mix go badly and another mix not great "he is only human i guess" 4 the record i had no ***** take never have anyway luv my tunes 2much" plus was not drinking "ragin"
4the likes of ****** it just seems 2be a popularity contest
but in saying all that i think the man is still a ledgent plus that nite he had great interaction with the crowd getting them going.
but fergie played a fucking belter that nite,

yet 2 have a better nite then hearing "jonny jonny jonny fucking power playing are col h always a good nite.........

[Dj Richie Parker]

no

what makes a good dj is the ability to rock the fuck out of the crowd and give them a great night

mixing is 25% of being a good dj

the rest is programming and track selection

Eh sorry carl cox..

anyway


Im really not trying to put dj's down, im not exactly a wizard myself (but close..ha) i suppose im just pointing out..this..

A dj should be called a good dj if he is one..Not because he produces good tracks or because he plays the top 20 most sought after records and keeps the crowd happy..or as carl mentioned there " rock the fuck out of the crowd playing what..? anthem's..? me ma can do that..

Like i think you can make a really good set out of average tunes if you mix them well, how often have you set at home or listened on the dancefloor to your favorite dance artist bangin out a great track..to then just lob this total oblong beat into it and throw the whole buzz off..But you still support him because of what he produces or does for the sceene..!

So you might ask " what's the problem..? the problem is that great dj's are never going to get noticed if you have " big name " djs" who take recognition for being a great dj when they are actully only a name..

I know this is a very common thing to say but its so true.. the best dj's are still at home in their bedrooms getting their mammys to sit through their fantastic mixes because there is not a hope they can get anywhere else with it..because the dj's who do make it are not great dj's their either producers or radio jocks or shrude promoter's...

I suppose that is just life.....

[Sherlock]

I had a huge reply to this thread last nite and was just finishin up,wen the dude hear asked me 2look at the little system they have coz it was fuckin up! asked a chick bside me 2not let ne1 on ,id b bak in 2! came back some gimp just clicked off my shit..fucken irratatin!
I agree wit alot of yer points tho Ritchie! Fuck that bitch ne way

[playthatbeat]

aha.. now this brings into focus ANYONE that uses CDs, MP3s or whatever the fu*k-laptop arse.. I mean, how do we know they aren`t just playing a mix? Or using the "automix" on an Mp3 Jukebox?

Before we get deeper into this, let me state this:

if a dj can't hold a crowd's attention, he/she aint a dj

Just like if a bricklayer can't lay, he/she isn't a bricklayer. (and so on..)

now, it's up to you to decide what skills you require of your DJ, and what level of interaction You expect.

Having said that, if i screw up mixes, i feel i have failed.

[H3lx]

Eh sorry carl cox..

anyway


Im really not trying to put dj's down, im not exactly a wizard myself (but close..ha) i suppose im just pointing out..this..

A dj should be called a good dj if he is one..Not because he produces good tracks or because he plays the top 20 most sought after records and keeps the crowd happy..or as carl mentioned there " rock the fuck out of the crowd playing what..? anthem's..? me ma can do that..

Like i think you can make a really good set out of average tunes if you mix them well, how often have you set at home or listened on the dancefloor to your favorite dance artist bangin out a great track..to then just lob this total oblong beat into it and throw the whole buzz off..But you still support him because of what he produces or does for the sceene..!

So you might ask " what's the problem..? the problem is that great dj's are never going to get noticed if you have " big name " djs" who take recognition for being a great dj when they are actully only a name..

I know this is a very common thing to say but its so true.. the best dj's are still at home in their bedrooms getting their mammys to sit through their fantastic mixes because there is not a hope they can get anywhere else with it..because the dj's who do make it are not great dj's their either producers or radio jocks or shrude promoter's...

I suppose that is just life.....

djing is entertainment

entertainment is business

if you cant talk the talk you wont walk the walk

this is why some of the best djs in the world will never play outside a house party, tho that said, a lot of them probably dont want to

[k.farrell]

ah there is not much more 2 be said really then I KFARRELL LOVE TUNES

[Dj Richie Parker]

djing is entertainment

entertainment is business

if you cant talk the talk you wont walk the walk

this is why some of the best djs in the world will never play outside a house party, tho that said, a lot of them probably dont want to

So basically its ok to be just an average dj once you have good business acumen and alot of nerve you can be the greatest dj in the world..

So this brings me back to the start..ALOT OF BIG NAME DJ'S CANT MIX..? Thats all i was really trying to acknowledge at the start..Rant over for me..

Tanx

[H3lx]

of course its ok

who cares whos the biggest dj in the world?

fuck that bollox

ill listen to who i like

i dont need them to get superstar status and recognition like

what difference does it make?

99% of big name djs arent a patch on some of the far lower rated djs, but you know what? nobodys forcing you to go to the superstars